The Hidden Secrets of Functional Health No One’s Talking About – with Dr. Michael Sherwood

In this powerful and deeply authentic conversation, I sit down with Dr. Michael Sherwood of Sherwood.tv
to explore his incredible journey — from serving as a police officer to becoming a leading functional medicine doctor on a mission to heal, empower, and awaken humanity. Dr. Sherwood opens up about his personal transformation, how he met his amazing wife Dr. Michelle Neil-Sherwood, and how together they’ve built a movement centered around true health, wholeness, and faith. The two have written books, produced films, and created Kingdom, a supplement line designed to support the body’s natural ability to heal — all grounded in their belief that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. We dive into powerful topics including:
The difference between treating symptoms and healing the root cause
The truth about protein, supplements, and functional nutrition
The mind-body-spirit connection and how it impacts your health
Living with purpose, faith, and authenticityThis episode will inspire you to see your health and your life in a whole new way. Find Mark and the Functional Medical Institute and Michelle and all their books and offerings at https://sherwood.tv

Mark Sherwood, Naturopathic Doctor (ND) and Michele L. Neil-Sherwood, Doctor of Osteopathy (DO),have a full-time wellness-based medical practice in Tulsa, OK called the Functional Medical Institute where they adopt a whole person approach, which is outcome based looking at each individual’s unique needs. Their goal is to lead people down a pathway of true healing. To that end, there are two purposes:1. To eradicate all self-imposed, choice driven disease conditions, and 2. To eliminate the usage of unnecessary medications. Through their unique clinic, various diagnostic tests are used, healing and prevention of common disease patterns are the norm. The couple has co-authored four Amazon #1 best-selling books, The Quest for Wellness, Fork Your Diet, Surviving the garden of Eatin’, The Narrow Road, Peptides Unlocked, and Hormones Unlocked. Their newest book, Authentic Longevity, will be released in September 2025. They have been seen on national TV, been quoted on CNN, featured on CBN,

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  📍  Welcome back to Worthy and Abundant, the podcast. I'm so glad you're here.

It means the world to me that you're listening. And today I have a. Special guest. He is a naturopath naturopathic doctor Mark Sherwood. He's also an author. His wife is Michelle Sherwood, who is a doctor of osteopathy. She is a do, and just today we have Mark and

they have a full-time wellness based medical practice in Tulsa, Oklahoma called Functional Medical Institute, where they adopt a whole person approach, which is outcome-based, looking at individual's unique needs, and their goal is to lead people down a pathway of true healing. Their two purposes are to eradicate all self-imposed choice driven disease conditions, and two, to eliminate the usage of unnecessary.

Medications, prescriptions. Through their unique clinic, various diagnostic tests are used. Healing and prevention of common disease patterns are the norm. The couple has co-authored four Amazon, number one, bestselling books. The Quest for Wellness for Cure Diet, surviving The Garden of Eaton, the Narrow Road Peptides Unlocked and Hormones unlocked their newest book.

Authentic Longevity was released in September of 2025. They have been seen on national tv, been quoted on CNN, featured on CBN and our regular contributors to many national publications, and I'm super excited. There's so much more to say, but I'm super excited for this conversation with Mark today because I love natural health.

I am all about. Functional medicine and I have my own story that I'll be briefly talking about here, of being misdiagnosed by multiple doctors and different things when I had a health condition back in 11 and 12 and. So I'm excited to hear to talk to you, mark. So thank you for being here. Welcome to the show.

Oh, thanks for having me, Linda. I really appreciate it. Super honored to be with you today. Thank you. Thank you. It's mutual, the feeling's mutual. Tell us your, a little bit about your personal journey to where you are today. Can you share with us the personal story of how you came to pursue holistic health and what led you and Michelle on this mission?

Yeah, interestingly enough prior to this career, I was a police officer for two plus decades, 10 years of Wichita. The SWAT team saw, I saw a lot of stuff that no person should ever see. Frankly but my last years on the police department, Linda, I was transferred to the police academy where I had a multitude of assignments.

But I was tasked with developing a wellness program. And I didn't know the first thing about what a program looked like and has it related to law enforcement, but I started statistically looking at. The age of death of police officers and I uncovered some shocking statistics that hadn't changed in 50 years, which was the average death of a male police officer with 20 plus years of service was 66 years of age.

And frankly that shocked me 'cause I thought, they're serving the community. Why is that? So I went on a mission and that was that crux of the time where. Something needed to be done. So I went on a mission to figure out why that was. And so were you Gary, Michelle at the time?

I was not. It was, I was. I was raising three children on my own which was challenging in itself 'cause I was working multiple jobs at the time, and Michelle at the time was married to medicine and unbeknownst to me at the same time in history where I was there she was being kicked out of mainstream medicine because too many people got too well.

And I'm not exaggerating on that. It's, it is very sad. And when I was in the middle of this studying journey, I decided I'm gonna take the mission of protection and service and expand it because the world needs this. It's stress, just all kinds of medication for, was that the reason that the me the police officers are dying?

Yes. That stress. Okay. A hundred percent stress, poor nutrition, just mindset, traumas and stuff like that. And so I just went on to that. Quest, if you will, to figure out why. And kinda Forrest Gump, kept on running. I kept on studying, and I never stopped. I feel like you're gonna tell me you met Michelle on your journey and that's how Okay.

I actually did meet her after I retired. Within my studies, I took a job again as a representative for a supplement company to teach clinicians how to mix in supplements into their practices. And she became one of my first visits and I remember the day, it was crazy. I shook her hand, 'cause chivalry iss not dead unless you kill it, right?

Yeah. I shook her hand and said, Dr. Neil. That's her maiden name. Yeah. Didn't change it. Thank you for your time today. I couldn't let go of her hand and it was like, you better get some courage there, big boy. And oh wow. I asked her to to dinner and we, we never really had been apart since.

It truly was love first sight, and so I love that story. We joined our lives or hearts together and she's my best friend. That is such a beautiful story. I love it so much. Okay so did, and then she, you joined forces? Yes. She had started the Functional Medical Institute on her own about four months prior and didn't have any staff, didn't have anything, and had fought through the depression of getting kicked out of her dream job.

What are you gonna do? And so she had to do something. And about the time I came around and little did I know, she was so frustrated with life and depressed like that she had prayed for a man to come into her life 'cause she had been wounded and hurt. And there's a movie about her out there if anybody wants to watch it.

It's called the Prayer List. It's a really fascinating story of her life. And but she I love when I came around, I guess I. I fit the bill of that list, so that's what Okay. Okay. Just what were you there for? You were doing what? Selling something or what were you Yeah I was teaching clinicians how to utilize supplementation into their practices rather than just medications. So that was my flare of the thing that I, a lot was fascinating. . As a representative, because I knew a lot.

I was in school and I was trying to just make a living and it seemed like a reasonable, a connection to what I wanted to do. And so were you Great. It always great to muscular and I see you and her, you're both like really strong. I was watching some of your videos. Yeah.

Like I, I was not, neither of us were very raised in healthy homes. I think we probably had more unhealthiness and probably learned more what not to do. And so that forced us into what. To do, and then now, is right now people see us and wanna see us as doctors and clinicians and leaders.

I don't think I have a. A job or a right to not be fit at this point. I, it's almost not in your industry, owe it to people because it's, I've gotta represent Weller. Why would they wanna follow anything I say? Exactly no, I agree. We connected and it was really started with nobody.

And now, nearly 15 years later, 25,000 clients worldwide. I could have never imagined what would happen with that but I truly, I wouldn't change a thing with it. We've struggled, fought through stuff, but it is good. So how did you grow it? Was it the books that you wrote and things, or? Yeah, it was twofold.

When my wife was fired from medicine, she was told that, the people didn't come back to see her, therefore, that must be bad. But in our world, I would look at that as good. They didn't need to come back and see her because they were well, and so she did maintain a good database of those people.

And there was probably a thousand people, I would say, and they wondered where she was and the previous employer would not tell them. So it was like a little bit of a cat and a mouse game to get the word out there. And oh, that's it. Started like that with word of mouth, no advertising, and then it just.

It just continued. Yeah. To grow. You help people. That's right. Yeah. You help people and they tell everybody, and I always tell any medical doctor, if I meet like a young guy that's studying medicine or any, I always say, learn about natural help. You wanna be the best, you wanna help people and make a lot of money.

You need to learn about the natural things and food and all these things. Yes. Because yeah, it's, and I tell 'em. Because I'm, that's why I was excited to talk to you because I know my dad was a pharmacist and never took a single on his life. He knew about food ingredient. He grew up in the depression.

My dad died in 2016, but he knew about food ingredients before anybody was talking about food ingredients. He was like, bread should have five things, milk, butter, eggs, whatever. And. So anyway, and then my mom's mom was also a pharmacist, but she took medicine and stuff. But my, it's just I learned a little bit about health and, different things, but then I had my health condition, which was the darkest time probably in my life.

But I ended up, it was the biggest blessing because it taught me how to take care of myself and all these things, but yeah, so I love what you guys are doing. And so what was the vision behind Functional Medical Institute when you first. I would, it was really about this, Linda. It was about switching the paradigm That was, in our world today, and you know this well, it's like you go to the doctor and all it is getting a medication.

There's no concept of what you can do to fix the functionality that created the symptoms in the first place. There's no talk of that at all. It's just like this five, six. Seven minute visit if you're lucky, and walk out there with your medication and like you mentioned earlier, looking for a diagnosis code.

That's all it is. Yeah, and I'm not saying that's good or bad. There's some blessings there. We're not anti-medicine. But look, if that's all you're looking at, it's one sided, a two sided coin. And that's always gonna get a person in trouble because it leans into bias and so our mission was to turn it around and give people freedom, back, freedom of making choices, making the best choice responsible for them.

And I think people appreciate that. So we'll give. All this and say, we'll love you and support you however, but here's what we think. And people appreciate the honesty. I believe in that. And then we walk in the mud with them, so to speak. We will get to know them.

It's a relationship. And I realized a long time ago in this business that good things happen in a trustworthy relationship as opposed to a non-trust worthy relationship. Yeah. Which we see in medicine out there. Yeah, that's absolutely true. , Like I always say this you have to be your own advocate.

The doctor is practicing. You know your body better than Yes, they do. And you probably know the case means story, doctor. Yes. Yeah. So she. She was like, why aren't we getting the root cause? Why are we cutting and prescribing? Yep. We're not getting the root of why you're having these issues.

So yeah it's powerful. And so I have some questions here, . Many people feel overwhelmed by health with lab work, supplements, protocol, what do you see as the biggest barrier to transformation for most people?

I think you nailed it right there. It's an overload of information. Who to listen to, what to listen to, who's right, who's wrong, we have tried. And still make a concerted intentional effort with every person to cut it down to the lowest hanging. Fruit or lowest common denominator. So we don't usually, we always tell people to shy away from dieting, for example, instead of focusing on what not to do, I'll give people a big old list of foods that I call anti-inflammatory foods, and they're just natural foods.

It's not rocket science. But I'll tell people like Linda, here's your list of food. Just stay on the list and I don't care how much you eat. And if you're hungry, eat. If you're not, don't. I don't. Really care how much you eat. It's all good. And if you do this, your body will love this and you will start releasing excess fat tissue, which is excess inflammation.

Like wow. That easy? Yes. And so we go down there, these base things and try to simplify things. We talk about basic nutrients that people commonly are deficient in Vitamin D, Omega-3. We. Always talk about a good multivitamin, b Omegas, and we're just right there with stuff.

And people appreciate the simplicity foundation wise, and then we can go complex from there. And with blood work this is a big one. Conventional systems really don't run complete blood work. I was telling somebody just today that you could run conventional labs and still have heart disease or insulin resistance and never know it lying and that's not okay.

So we try to give people the concrete information and when people see us or work with us it's really teaching us, teaching them and them learning to become, as you said, their own advocate. I learn from people all the time, man. They bring stuff to me. I'm like. Great. And the most powerful tool I can have is two ears in one mouth to listen twice as much.

Yes, exactly. It's very powerful. So you blend spiritual, physical, emotional, and mental work. How do you help someone integrate all these layers without overwhelm? So when I talk about physical, I think we all know what that is. It's just this thing, walk around and call our body, right? Emotions are real.

They're raw. We have them, they fluctuate. And it's okay to really understand them. If we don't physically feel well, we probably don't emotionally feel well. Intellectually is an area that I think is important because people need to know, as we talked about a moment ago, information is not. Isolated anymore.

It is so much out there. You get overwhelmed. So how do you walk through that? So we try to give people clues on how to discern that or wisdom principles, I call 'em to understand good from bad truth, from non-truth. And then spiritually speaking, whether people are, believers in God and Jesus.

That's not the point. The point for me is, I believe that, but the point for that is like I want people to understand the essence of who they are. We are a spiritual being within a physical body which has emotions and we have a mind and it's all blended together and you can't, it's not working for us.

Linda, going to a church over here for your spiritual health, a doctor over here for physical health or a gym, a counselor for your emotional health and school for educational health. We need to learn how to. Put it together because you can't separate those from the concept of being a human.

And so when people get that, they're like, oh, that's so powerful. That makes sense. And I don't want people walking around weak in one area because I realize if you're weak or hurting in one area, it'll affect everything else. So we intentionally try to encourage people to put the work in, in their own time, to learn themselves and to become their best doctor.

I know what this means, but I want to hear your part of the point where you say, eradicate all self-imposed chosen choice driven disease conditions. Somebody else is gonna be like, what? I know a mouth. But it's, I know what it means because I stopped identifying as a sixth person in 2016 when I was in a workshop, and I started crying after four years of battling Lyme disease.

And I decided. He said to me, you identify yourself with this illness. Yes. And I had this light bulb moment and I went back to my MD alternative doctor. She was a functional, she was MD and alternative. And I said, I want you to draw blood. And anyway, there was only one factor and it was, she goes, it could be inflammation, but it wasn't Lyme.

And I was like, that's it, I'm done. Yeah. I stopped hanging out with the people that were complain, and I just, but and I interviewed this woman who was diagnosed with ms. And this is like early in my podcast career, and she helped all these women with diagnoses and meditation, all these different things she did with them, but she would never speak into the universe.

She has Emma. She would say, I was diagnosed. We go. I was diagnosed. She never, and then I talked to someone not that long ago who said, oh yeah, I have a friend who was, had Lyme disease, and she just, she talked herself out. She told herself she's healthy and she doesn't have it, and like she's cured. Yeah.

Anyway. Yeah. I wanna hear I know I'm touching on it, but. Let's hear what you're, no, I love that. And I just wanted to tag on and affirm what you said. Even people in our office are talking to me online or phone. I don't let 'em go there. If somebody says to me I have this or had that, I stop them and I do, I stop 'em very politely and very professionally.

But I'll say, now, hold on a minute. Let me help you with something. You just identify with that your license, your driver's license, your id, might as well say this. And that's your whole world. And frankly, people get very comfortable in that. They, it becomes a built in excuse as to why they can't get well.

So I'll correct 'em and I'll say, for example, Lyme, I'm living a life conducive with no Lyme disease diagnosis. See, I've flipped the script around, but for us. I think to answer your question, self-imposed choice driven diseases are those that are based upon the results of the perpetual choices we make and what we put in our mind.

We speak from our mouth, we speak from our heart and what we put in our mouth as far as food goes. This whole standard American Western diet lifestyle is treacherous. It's devastating, and it's horrible. Our health in our country right now, Linda, is the worst it's ever been in the history of mankind's existence.

And frankly, the Westernization of the whole world is creating sickness across the world. And I'm like, this is not okay. This is a little controversial what I'm about to say, but, and I'm not, now I know a lot about a lot of things, but I don't know, i'm not an expert, but do is the pharmaceutical and the farmers in.

A bed together or something. This is what I know to be true from history, and people can look this up. America's Health was better prior to the early 1980s when we developed this brilliant slash knot idea called the food Pyramid. At that point in time, you went from. You mentioned your father being a pharmacist, talking about fats, eating butters and stuff.

You went from a population of people that ate natural foods like that. All those things are told that they're bad. We started demonizing fat containing foods demonizing cholesterol, which we have to have by the way. We didn't talk about sugar and all of a sudden now we're eating fat free and now we've got this food pyramid with has these.

Six to 11 servings of grains and breads. That, again, was subsidized by the American government into farmers because they're trying to make a living. I didn't blame them. So they become subsidies of that because we've gotta get production up quickly and we've gotta get it up now because they've got all these foods and then those make people sick.

At that point, disease trends grew. Big pharma became more profitable, and at the same time in history. You had the transference of the vaccine liability to the federal government, so you had this perfect storm, if you will, of. Profit, manipulative opportunity. Yeah. And I think that they're it's hard to say they're in bed.

I think they've just, yeah. It's a, it's an alliance that's unhealthy. Yeah. It's an alliance that's unhealthy. That makes sense. Because, you go to Italy, I like people, friends. Like they'll, they go to Italy and here theyre gluten intolerant, but over there they could eat anything. That's healthy. And it's what? So I just find that so interesting. I wanna talk about some of the foods that you do recommend. And I have some other personal questions like around, 'cause like I was listening to an interview, you and your wife about food, what you guys, yeah. Yeah. And she started out saying plants and organic and then it was the grass fed meats.

And so there was. And then dairy. You were staying away from dairy except for goats because of cross contamination or something. But can you share a little bit on food? What if you don't have a lot of money and you can't do organic, can you help people like that? That can. Yes. There, so the organic is a buzzword, but I want people to be cautious of that because it really, it's not a hundred percent anymore.

'cause organic could be all the roadmap of what that means. It could be that the field wasn't sprayed with Roundup. During the production of this particular crop, but it didn't mean the field wasn't sprayed two weeks prior to the planning of the crop, so you get all this going on. But I think people didn't understand that when you're buying produce, the thicker the skin of the produce, the less need for organic.

That's just a common sensical thing. Yeah. 'cause you're gonna I agree. Peel off the skin. Skin and avocado. Yeah. Banana organic bananas, right? Yeah. There's no reason to buy organic bananas or organic avocado. It's just peel 'em out there, save the money. I'd rather you do that anyway. The body has a detox system, so just cool with that.

If you do get inorganic other stuff, just wash 'em the best you can and don't sweat it. I would rather people eat just normal old produce. Inorganic, wash them, do the best they can. Then a burger and fries. You people will also get the same thing with with meats and stuff like that too. Same principles apply.

If you can't afford it, do the best you can and don't sweat it, and realize that studies have shown over time that the higher nutrient value that you put in your body. The less you eat and it makes sense because you'll be less hungry because your nutrients are fulfilling the requirement for human bodies to exist as opposed to and compared to the high calorie.

Foods that have no nutrients, which are hungry more. And so I think we try to solve the problem a long time ago as we started getting into product development with the kingdom fuel in our lines, et cetera. Just to try to solve a problem because I didn't want people to not have an option.

What's the kingdom fuel? Is that your. Yeah, kingdom Fuel is our complete meal shake. And we put it together with organic pea protein, organic greens and reds, vitamins and minerals and fibers. And we did it for one reason alone because, about four years ago, five years ago, during the time of COVID, when it came upon the country it was interesting because people were concerned loss of jobs and.

Just, a lot of stuff going on right now. And so we tried to come up with something to help people out cost-wise. And so we came up with the Kingdom fuel. And if you use three scoops of that, it's a full meal. That's $5 per meal. And if you use three, two scoops, it's about three 50 per meal.

And then of course that went further to develop Kingdom Crunch, which was little meal bars. And then we went to, or Kingdom Candy, I should say. I went to Kingdom Crunch, which is cereal. And so I wanted people to have options and I wanted to be a problem solve as opposed to just a winery, yeah.

That's great. Yeah, 'cause I was gonna ask you about protein powders and stuff, and I wanted to ask you about vegan, I live in Florida and there's a lot of the vegan Oh yeah. I like plant-based but I. I don't wanna eat soy every day. I don't want to. I do like tofu, but like I don't know.

There's so much, and I love this stuff, but it's like you said in the beginning, like you get all this information like caffeine, coffee's good for you, coffee's bad for you, right? This is good for you, this is bad for you. And it's like, what do we believe? I think you go back to, if you can break it all down to this concept.

Eat things, drink things in are natural production. Picture real food as best you can, you're gonna be fine. And then like you mentioned, even with disease processes, once you do that, if it's natural and it's production method is not genetically modified and you got good sourcing of it, just eat it and don't worry about it.

Take the thought process of. This or that and just take that out. And I think taking the stress off of that is one of the biggest opportunities people have to take the confusion away. To your point, even with soy, soy is genetically modified for the most part in America. But if you can find non-genetically modified soy, it's actually beneficial.

Which what, like ami, because that's like Correct, right? That's not ami. Exactly. So those are good. I like AMI from time to time. And and you mentioned it if you. Vegan or don't like meat. It's okay. Either way is fine as long as you've maintained the common principles. And then supplement properly with what Maybe a nutritional selection doesn't have protein, right?

That's right. And in, in a vegan situation, typically it's gonna be omega threes are a little deficient, sometimes iron and sometimes B vitamins. But you can overcome that today. So it's not hard. Okay, good. Yeah, because I get really sensitive after eating meats and I thought kosher would be okay.

I don't know it, I just, I react, my body reacts to alcohol. My body reacts to meats, my body reacts to caffeine. I'm like the energy body actually. Yeah. I like the physical body likes meat and it, it's a good, it's good for the physical body, but my energetic, spiritual, energetic being gets clogged up and.

Becomes de like depressed fear. I don't know. It's, yeah, and you can just mix in some proteins some pea proteins around that. Some amino acids. That's easy. You can overcome that. Super easy. Fish isn't too bad. Thank you for saying that. Fish isn't, I don't react as bad. Do you guys do fish? Tell us about that.

I love fish. I really do. Look, fish is some, I probably order that the most time. If I go to a restaurant, I'll probably order fish most of the time. Okay. Because there's a vegan girl who will say that fish is the most toxic animal. I suppose that it's possible, but ultimately we live in a world where toxins, pollutants are everywhere and so true we can't get away from it.

It is true that perhaps some of the larger fish that. Have lived longer, might have a level of mercury. That's true, but the smaller fish would have less levels of mercury. So you can look at it from a common sense standpoint and know that, I think it depends on what part of the world it was captured from.

Is it wild caught? Is it farm raised? That's another issue as well. I have a hard time saying anything's just bad. Yeah. Just I'm like man, because we gotta look at it from an individual standpoint. Everything in moderation too, don't you think? Yeah. Okay. Common sense should rain. Okay.

And tell us about your books. You guys wrote a lot of books. We have started off Quest for wellness. Was a, like we talked about earlier, physical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual. I wanted people to have tools to be able to grow and develop in all those areas, and I thought it really did is a handbook for people's improvements in health.

It can, anybody can go there. Then from there we went to fork your diet. And that's really more about eradicating disease processes. And on the cover of Fork Your Diet, there's a little bit of a play on words. It's an acronym. It says Stop Falling for the frauds. And the frauds are fear, resentment, anger, unforgiveness, disappointment, and shame, because those really affect us in disease processes.

So I wanted people to have some anchor points there to be able to let that go. And then we went to, surviving the Garden of Eaton, which I thought was a play on words, talking. Yeah. You guys cute names. Yeah, natural foods. And then we went from there, onward to the narrow road, which is just my wife and i's devotional type thoughts through the day, and I wanted people that maybe before bed, sometimes we watch or put something in our mind that's not the best. I wanted somebody to read something wholesome, to uplifting, giving hope, and then of course I peptides unlocked hormones unlocked, and then now authentic longevity.

That's incredible. Tell us some of the tools that you put in your first book When I talk about exercise. I talk about weekly goals as opposed to daily goals. I think that's one of the greatest tools that I could get people regarding exercise goals. 'cause we all set these things that say I'm gonna do X number of minutes per day, but the last I checked the days aren't the same.

They're different, right? And so I like people to put a weekly goal. Like for example, if people can do 150 minutes a week of something. That doesn't mean they have to do 30 minutes per day or 10 minutes per day. You could do a whole 150 minutes per day if you wanted to one day and you've reached your goal for the week.

Good. So I like to failure proof the goals with food. Start with one meal a day, probably the first. Make it good. Win the day, start the day off. With maybe emotional or something like that. What we speak. You mentioned that earlier. Very good. I start my day off with an affirmation that it will lead me on a pathway of victory as opposed to loss.

I wanna start my day off with what I am the I am statements intellectually learn something new. Every day. Do you do any like EFT or any of that stuff, like emotional freedom technique? I will push people to those areas of therapy 'cause I'm a believer in them a thousand percent. We don't do it in our clinic because it can't do everything.

I guess we could, but it just gets us too scattered out. But I'm great on that brain mapping. I've sent a lot of people down the road for that as well. I think it's all beneficial. Yeah. Incredible. How did you learn about the just quickly, like the how the emotions, the shame, all that. Like where did you, 'cause I've been on this path for many years, investing over a hundred thousand in my own healing.

Not through therapy, really. Just mostly coaches and they're all spiritual. Yeah. But I'm curious how you learn like the lowest vibration is shame and get, I learned this. In the last three years. Yeah. But and I carry shame for so many years, and it's like obvious you can, pardon? I think we can carry shame, and I think my learning process, I'm still learning. Yeah. It's, yeah. We always learn. Yeah. I think I started off as a. Probably as a young man, maybe on the police department, I started my learning process of trying to figure out, like why am I here and why is somebody there and what happened in the process?

And I became a student of that and realized that it's a fine line, isn't it? Between here and here. And we're all capable of anything, both good and bad. And that caught me. Thinking and studying and reading and asking questions. And I think that's the most powerful learning thing that I've experienced.

I ask questions and I listen to people talk, and I learn from them. And it's been, I guess you would say Revelation, putting it together. I can't explain it all. I wish, yeah, I wish I could, maybe wish I couldn't. But you just it, when it starts to click inside of your heart it resonates with peace.

That's incredible. Yeah, it's true. It's true. That's really all we want is peace, inner peace, and it's, it is. Can you before we wrap up, I just have a couple per tell us truly how much protein, like in your opinion, your expertise, yours and your wife, how much protein are we supposed to have per day?

Yeah. On the basis of our age. And lean body mass. I think if you correlate, this is a general answer, but it will give people guidance. So if you're in your twenties or thirties and highly active and all that stuff, it's probably about one gram per pound of lean body mass.

Okay. But as you get a little bit older, probably forties, fifties, sixties, and onward prob and depending on your activity level, probably somewhere dropping back between 80%. Of the grams per pound of lean body mass up to one gram per pound of lean body mass. So it varies, but it doesn't get more, as we age, it gets a little bit less.

And that's not to say our, we can't tolerate it, but the body. It's meant to die, the physical body. So you gotta think about its efficiency, so you don't wanna tax it too hard, but you don't wanna back off too much. So it's a little bit of a nuance thing, but that's generally where we stay.

Interesting. Okay. And what about CBD for sleep? Do you approve of that? Yeah. The cannabidiols I think have got a lot of benefit. You know those receptors, they hit on the CB one and CB two, they drive anandamide, which is your bliss molecule. So I use and have used CBDA lot of times now THC becomes a little bit negligible 'cause you're talking about neurotoxic and some of the strains a today probably are not.

In a good place and can recreate some addiction and flatline neurotransmitters. But CBDI cannot find anything out there that of a negative as far as usage of that. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you. And then do you drink coffee? Coffee is shown to be beneficial. As long as it's organic and mold free.

However, there are people, most coffee today is moldy. People need to know that, especially if it's in its powder form. So you need to get the beans. I'll make a pitch for Kingdom Cup. It's my favorite out there. But is that your brand or a different it is. We purchased the Rices to a one that was tested organic and mold free.

But there are people perhaps like yourself, there are receptors that are genetically coated proteins that breakdown caffeine slow. Fast. Like in your case, you probably have a slow caffeine breakdown, making you more sensitive to that, making it more stimulatory, and it can become uncomfortable for you.

And in your case, I'd say no. Yeah, I do love it though. I'll do decaf sometimes, but I've been doing some of the mushroom coffee, which I think Good move. Thank you. Yeah, I do enjoy that. And then, dairy, you're saying you guys are, you stay with that don't do dairy unless it's most dairy in our current.

Country's production is very poor. It's these cows are kept in confined animal feeding operations with, just imagine this. They're sitting there, they can't move. They're given drugs to be fat fast. And they can, it's terrible. It's terrible. It's just horrible. It's terrible. And they're just brutalized.

Now, if you're living on a farm, you have your own cow, they're walking around eating grass and getting snowed on and bug bit and you want to have some milk, go for it. But I think it's all about where you live and what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Okay. All right.

So what else would you like to share with everybody before we find out where they can buy the Kingdom products and your books and all of that? I think that when you talk about health and wellness and all the different connectors, physical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual I think people need to start today to just make steps today to do better.

Yeah. You gotta let yesterday go, man. It's gone. And we don't know about tomorrow. So I think it's just about I think living in the presence, maybe every situation you have just. Leave it better than you found it, including yourself. Busy on yourself. Love yourself a little bit, and forgive yourself as well.

And and I want people to have hope, right? Hope that you can have a better day. Hope that you can make a better choice. Hope that you can turn things around. Yeah. And so what is one thing that people can do today to. Just be a little healthier, I think for today. 'Cause the most problem we have is probably stress today.

I really believe that. I want people to take one minute, 60 seconds, get your watch out. No dogs, no cell phone, no spouse, no radio, no music, and just sit there and breathe and be quiet. Like meditate and actually think about, the breath and the wind or whatever the breeze, what that smells like, what it feels and if that's just one minute one.

If people would do that today, I think they'll find that it's gonna be uncomfortable for a little bit, but then they get in the middle of it, they're like, this is not bad. Then we get the end. They're like, I don't want that to end. Because that does turn the parasympathetic nervous system on, and it does cause a sympathetic nervous system, which is a stress side to go down.

And so I, that's just a, an easy tip anybody can do anywhere. Amazing. Thank you for that. Are there any upcoming projects, books, or expansions you're especially excited about? Yeah. People can find all about excellent Sherwood TV website, but okay. We'll just the link. Yeah. We just finished the filming of a movie that Stars Lou Rno and Jimmy JJ Walker.

A lot of couple guys that are known, and it's a story. About the Alzheimer's crisis made into a movie. And we just finished filming. It's called Forgotten Fortune. Be looking for it next year, and it's great. And then our last year's movie we filmed is being released any day now. It's called Wealthy Soul, which is a story about the homeless plight we have in a nation and what people's stories there.

It's really a, these are really cool stories and I think people will be inspired. Oh my goodness. They sound amazing. Thank you. That's incredible. Let's see what got you into the filming? So much filming. I, when we made that one on my wife's story and it went over So fearless. Yeah. The, yeah, I realized that people.

People are spoken to by stories, and Linda, when people you tell a good story that sticks with people and that inspires people. 'cause it's real life that's like healthy and clean and not Yes, scary, like trauma, right? I love the everything you're describing is like something that touches the heart and the soul, right?

You wanna touch on a person's emotions, their, the almost you wanna bring tears of not just sad, but also joy. You want to bring laughter and you wanna bring inspiration. And all of our stories do that. They're well known for that and I think people will really get inspired by those as well.

Excellent. So tell us your favorite daily habit for staying healthy. Huh? When I go to the gym. This is crazy. I go in there and I work out. I really do. But I'll listen to calming music in my ears with headphones. I'm not there to talk to anybody. I'm not there to socialize. I don't care who's lifting what weight.

That's a time of quiet for me. Yeah, I am. And I'm just thinking to myself. I'm grateful that I can move today. It's the truth, and I've been at, I'm in my sixties now for Pete's sake. I'm like, what happened to life and time? But I enjoy that 'cause it resets me and centers me into just a calm, I love that. One thing you do when you're off and you need to reset. This may sound a little nutty, but I'll go to the woods and take a walk. I do. I like nature. I grew up in the country and I love animals. I like to look at nature. I like to hear, I like to feel, I like to watch the birds. I like to see the deer walking around the, oh, peaceful raccoons.

I, it is just when you see that and experience that's the best. Yeah, I love that too. Thanks. Yummy. And the dog go in nature every day. Yes. What whole food, I already know what your answer's gonna be. What whole food supplement or practice you absolutely swear by. When I talk about supplements there, there's five.

You have to have vitamin D. Omega-3 A multivitamin, vitamin B and also the mineral magnesium. And if you can go right there, I think you got it. And then when I talk about a whole food, huh? Might sound crazy, but I'll, but I'll have a salad. I do I load that salad up and put a bunch of stuff on there and I'll eat that thing and sometime I'll put protein on there.

But I'll eat that salad. I like 'em. Yeah, . and then which magnesium, because there's like side trade and this one and that one. I like for the utility of it.

Magnesium glycinate, right? It tends to work. It's a good broad ranging one because you're right, you got citrate malate three and eight and it's on and on. But I think glycinates kind of pride in the middle and it does good in pretty much every area. Amazing. You have been a wealth of knowledge and so much information.

I appreciate you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Linda. I appreciate you as well. We're gonna put the links in the show notes for people to find your books and your website and all the things, right? So the website is Yes, ma'am. Where they can find everything. Yeah, everything's there. Just look at the menus and there's a dropdown box for pretty much everything.

There's some free downloads on there too. People can avail their self to those as well. And you help people all over the world, right? 'cause you use Zoom. Yes. We are multi-state licensed in the US but we have clients around the world as well. That's amazing. Yeah. So great talking to you. Thank you so much.

You're welcome. My pleasure to know you. Great.